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Thread: OMG my next door neighbor has bought a red nosed pit bull!!!!

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    [QUOTE=reneighb;180920]
    Quote Originally Posted by pbk1776 View Post
    OMG what a stupid Thread (sorry but that's how I feel) SO WHAT THEY BOUGHT A RED NOSE Pitty!!! - I have to agree, why you so panicky? are you certain that the owners or your neighbours are irresponsible or do you even know them? C'Mon be real .....I'm from Sydney I currently have 2 Amstaffs but since I do not have papers they are considered pit bulls - but in contrary I am a responsible OWNER and do what is good for Us, our dogs and for community, why? because of people stereotyping the breed like you.

    Like I posted later in this thread I seemed ignorant but this is not so. I should have explained myself. The reason they got this dog hasn't anything to do with owning a loving dog. He bought it as a status symbol he doesn't know how to hold the dog it's not microchipped still at 13weeks hasn't seen a vet to have its vaccinations they said they won't be taking it to a vet either. They are the ones ignorant and don't understand how powerful this breed can be compared to my dogs. They don't know how to hold the dogs nor know what to feed it. They seem at tentative to what I tell them they can do to help train him but I doubt they will follow through. They have had puppies in the past but they either have gotten stolen or they got rid of it once I told them how big that puppy will get.

    They won't even hold onto my own dogs lead with my gorgeous obedient kelpie on the other end. Once my dogs moves just to stand they let go of the lead and run the other way.

    I have a duty of care to this dog, I read up on the legislation which has changed and has become very expensive and difficult to own a dog like this to to mention the people who have breed and sold the dog could get a 2yr goal sentence and a whopping 50,000 dollar fine......

    I think I should do something. It's not fair on this dog.

    If they screw it up it's the dogs life not theirs.
    Hi

    now this make more sense :-) and now I understand your concern, its fair for you to show your concerns and seems that you know your neighbours quite well. I will also be concern if the owner bought the pup as a social symbol and without any right experience.

    However, you seem to be a concern member of the community. I suggest to talk to them and give them the options of trainings, dog schools, socializing and advise them to do more research, since that it is only a pup - start it now to see better results in the future, right?

    Goodluck mate - hopefully you can help the pup and its owners.

    Best Regards
    m<(o.o)>m

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    http://www.dlg.nsw.gov.au/DLG/DLGHom...-_Brochure.pdf. FOR NSW the laws on owning a dog that is regarded as a RESTRICTED BREED not anywhere I have mentioned its dangerous. There are other laws stipulating how a dog will be stamped as a DANGEROUS dog under the dangerous dogs act.

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    Thank you pbk1776

    This is the action I've taken so far, however I think they still need a lot more help that I can give them, I've given them a number for a dog training group that I go to close by. However I'm quite sure they do not allow these type of dogs to participate. Hopefully they will or they may just have to get a private dog trainer/handler to help them

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    Maybe you should change the title of this thread to " OMG my red nose pit bull neighbor has retards as owners ....... what should i do with them"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Podge View Post
    Maybe you should change the title of this thread to " OMG my red nose pit bull neighbor has retards as owners ....... what should i do with them"
    Because then I would be making this about the owners. It has nothing to do with that. Yeah with training and help they could become ok dog owners but for a first time dog owner who the hell recommends a dog that is BY LAW IN NSW regarded as a RESTRICTED breed?

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    Enclosure requirements for restricted and dangerous dogs as prescribed by the regulations
    Clause 24 of the Companion Animals Regulation 2008 requires the enclosure:
    l Tobefullyenclosed,constructedandmaintainedsothatth e
    dog cannot escape under, over or through the enclosure.
    l Tobeconstructedsothatapersoncannothaveaccesstoit
    without the assistance of an occupier of the property who is
    above the age of 18 years.
    l Tobedesignedtopreventchildrenfromhavingaccesstothe
    enclosure.
    l Notbelocatedonthepropertyinsuchawaythatpeople
    are required to pass through the enclosure to gain access to
    other parts of the property.
    l Tohaveaminimumheightandwidthof1.8metres.
    l Tohaveanareaofnotlessthan10squaremetresforeach
    dangerous or restricted dog kept on the property.
    l Tohavewallsthatarefixedtothefloorandconstructedto
    be no more than 50 mm from the floor.
    l Tohavewalls,afixedcoveringandagatethatare
    constructed of brick, timber, iron or similar solid materials, or chain mesh manufactured from at least 3.15 mm wire or weldmesh manufactured from at least 4 mm wire with a maximum mesh spacing of 50 mm, or a combination.
    l Haveafloorthatisconstructedofsealedconcreteand graded to fall to a drain for the removal of effluent.
    l Toprovideaweatherproofsleepingarea.
    Owners of restricted dogs and those dogs declared dangerous are to comply with the prescribed enclosure requirements within 3 months from date of the declaration and must obtain a compliance certificate for the enclosure from council.


    Somehow I don't think they will want to comply with this.

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    Sorry about the spaces missing. I copy and pasted this through a PDF file

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    Failure to comply can result in heavy fines to the owner of the dog.
    Offence under Companion Animals Act 1998
    Imprisonment provision (max penalty)
    Maximum Penalty amount

    Restricted or dangerous dog attacks/harasses/chases person or animal

    $33,000


    Restricted or dangerous dog attacks or bites a person due to failure to comply with control requirements
    2 years (and possible immediate destruction of dog)

    $55,000
    Restricted or dangerous dog encouraged to attack where a person was actually bitten
    2 years (and possible immediate destruction of dog)
    $22,000


    Fail to comply with control requirements for restricted or dangerous dog

    $16,500


    Sell or advertise restricted dog

    $16,500


    Accept ownership of restricted dog

    $16,500


    Breed or advertise available to breed restricted dog

    $16,500


    Dangerous or restricted dog encouraged to attack
    Possible 6 months incarceration
    $11,000



    This would be a massive wake up call.
    I have not yet shown them this information as I haven't had the chance to BUT I PLAN ON DOING IT VERY SOON

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    Last edited by mymatejack; 09-25-2012 at 11:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reneighb View Post
    Because then I would be making this about the owners. It has nothing to do with that. Yeah with training and help they could become ok dog owners but for a first time dog owner who the hell recommends a dog that is BY LAW IN NSW regarded as a RESTRICTED breed?
    Now you seem to be contradicting yourself? You react to us saying that a pitbull requires the same training as any other dog with describing the owners as morons who have given away dogs in the past and are afraid of your dog. It is about the owners. They shouldn't be allowed to own any dog. And forcing them to keep their dog in a cage is not going to help anyone much...

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