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    Neither the SBT nor the APBT nor the Amstaff - are supposed to be aggressive to humans.

    Not like some other breeds that are (were) supposed to be protective of their personal humans and aggressive to outsiders.

    How's this for an aggressive breed...
    on the NSW stats - they're right up there with the SBT. Mostly in proportion to ownership levels. The more people that own one, the more chance of owners that are no good at reading or training a dog.
    Dog Whisperer: Showdown with Holly - YouTube

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    How's this for an aggressive human !

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    Round and round we go in ever decreasing circles until............................ ( I am sure you know the rest of this one !)

    I love how they say that the figures do not lie when looking at all this stuff regarding BSL, aggressive dogs and dogs that attack.

    All statistics, are just figures put in a certain way to prove someone's theory ! I don't believe that all the lists put out by different groups show true figures. The figures are definitely skewed towards the larger style of dog.

    Maybe people are too embarrassed to report a SWF attacking either them or their dog - or maybe they class it as not so important.

    So, here are a couple of news' reports out lately. Maybe, just maybe - there is a change in thinking !!!!!! Can only hope !

    Maltese terrier on dangerous dogs list

    Coast dog catchers wary of small terriers Gossip News | Coast Confidential | goldcoast.com.au | Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia Yes, this one is what is called a 'puff' piece - but still bought up some really salient points.

    And lastly - a different kind of list: Top 10 Deceptively Dangerous Dog Breeds

    Maybe when all attacks from all dogs are listed - then I believe it will show the real problem !

    There is not enough attention shown by the ones in the know regarding the 2 legged animal at the other end of the lead and their effect on a perfectly good dog - regardless of breed or size !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    How's this for an aggressive breed...
    on the NSW stats - they're right up there with the SBT. Mostly in proportion to ownership levels. The more people that own one, the more chance of owners that are no good at reading or training a dog.
    Dog Whisperer: Showdown with Holly - YouTube
    No - not showing an aggressive pup - but what the video is showing is 'gross stupidity' on behalf of the 'world famous dog trainer' ! That poor pup put out sooooooo many signals - and they were all ignored by this WFDT !

    So, now there is another severely damaged pup who tried her damnedest to change the situation - and look what happened !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Common sense - what's that ?

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    I thought the dog did a good job of calming itself and also trying the calm the idiot human.

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    She did a brilliant job - but the WFDT was not interested or was not watching or probably did not have a clue ! It is a real shame that he has such a large audience !!!!!!!! Oh the damage !!!!!!!!!

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    I gotta say that the WFDT behaved in a way I consider really bad.

    And the dog picked from flight/fight/freeze - it mostly chose freeze/flight where it could and only picked fight where it didn't feel it had any other choice.

    But if people think that only some breeds of dog bite - they'd be wrong. Even humans will bite if they are suitably provoked and cornered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I gotta say that the WFDT behaved in a way I consider really bad.

    And the dog picked from flight/fight/freeze - it mostly chose freeze/flight where it could and only picked fight where it didn't feel it had any other choice.

    But if people think that only some breeds of dog bite - they'd be wrong. Even humans will bite if they are suitably provoked and cornered.
    I will go one better - the behaviour was totally stupid and sooooo aggressive towards the pup !

    It wasn't his dog - so why all the attitude ?

    I still do not understand what this WFDT was trying to achieve here ?

    Maybe someone else can see things that I cannot see - but - even with my own pups over the years - I would not even think that it would be really bright to do what was done in this video !

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    He's being the alpha male, that's all...

    I must admit that I laughed out loud when he got bitten just when he was explaining to the owners that the dog was now relaxed and submissive and describing the body language. Which clearly he completely misinterpreted. Then I felt a bit sorry for him for being such an idiot because I do believe he cares about dogs.

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    While I don't necessarily agree with what CM does here, he DOES actually say 'I didn't see that coming' so he, himself admits that things did not quite go according to plan.

    I've gone back and watched a few times and I'm not seeing obvious behavioral cues to warn CM that Holly isn't submissive, but also think CM a wee but of a goose for making a fairly big assumption that he could just reach out and pat her on the head.

    If I had to guess, I'd say that dog is one who has been punished many times for giving warning signals, so now she tends to skip them almost (and note I say almost) completely.
    Last edited by Villain & Flirtt; 09-20-2012 at 10:27 AM.

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