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    Welcome Lucky Lady....
    When the bitch is ready to mate, she will 'present' herself to the male.. Refusal now is likely a sign she is not yet ready, but it seems she is very close... However, some bitches may simply refuse the urge to mate, but thats not common I believe .
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    it good to see you whant to learn i reamean this book called the joy of breeding your own show dog by ann seranne
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    Hi Lucky Lady.

    Day 8 sounds a bt early for me. Certainly not late at all. Has she had a season before? Did you notice any changes in her behaviour during it that might indicate what day she beomes receptive?

    Best to test the male with her each morning and night. Through a mesh fence can be good (known as "teasing") as they can get interested but if not ready then she won't get cranky with him.

    If he sniffs under her tail and she "flags" by lfting her tail and moving her back end into him rather than shifting away she will be much closer to ready.

    Mine are a different breed yes, but big dogs, and it will only happen if both parties are willing...

    Try her in the morning. Mine tend to become receptive around day 11 onwards...

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    I agree, day 8 is a fraction early.

    Keep your dogs separate and only test them once or twice per day otherwise your male is going to be worn out trying and getting rejected.

    Maiden bitches can be a little grumpy, it's a little scary for some. Some bitches can be grumpy with the males regardless of whether they are ready or not, though it is rarely lasts more than a minute or two when they are right in. I had a bitch who was very intolerant of young untried dogs but presented with an experienced stud and she was completely different.

    Make sure she's not socialising with any other males thru fences, even desexed ones, you don't want her to get favourites.

    Introduce them on lead, be calm and confident yourself.

    How old are your dogs?

    Do you have any contact with either the bitch or dogs breeder, they would be a good source of information regarding your breed. Large breeds can need some physical assistance as they're not as agile.

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    Macs post reminded me that my Mastiff breeder said that it was rather tricky and they needed to assist the dogs to get the job done. Not sure how but it all sounded very unromantic to me.

    Glad to see another Mastiff lover on here, i hope ya hang around as i love Douges. Good luck with the breeding.


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    It's very unromantic Sean, and you might want to invest in some rubber gloves

    I agree day 8 is too early, the bitch will usually let you know when she is ready as will some stud dogs, some will turn their nose up at a bitch unless she is completely in.

    If you fail this time you may want to do some research in to AI's but again, it's still only early a friend of mine mated 2 bitches recently on days 12 and 14, pregnancy has been confirmed.

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    Thanks so much for the replys it's been great.
    Day 9

    My girl is in her 3rd season.
    I do however have a desexed male that is locked
    in the front part of our property (can't get into her)
    Maybe I should lock him in the garage for a few days ?
    And with me assisting I am a little worried about doing that
    incase she snaps me instead of him..She would never bit me
    or any of my family members but if I get in the middle of it
    maybe I could cop a bite..
    I did read up that I could hold her on a lead and when he sniff's
    her, keep a firm hold and he will mount her..
    I might give that a go and hope to god my neighbors don't see me
    and think I am some kind of weirdo.. Now that would give them
    something to talk about

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    If the stud is a dog she's been living with chances are she will accept him when she's ready. Most nastiness from bitches is when the dog is a stranger and things are rushed.

    My stud dog has had a mating in a service station and the very back corner of the show grounds, both times the bitches had been tested (if you really want it to happen this time it may be necessary to consult a vet) as both myself and the bitches owners were travelling and meeting half way, it took some walking up and down for the bitches to settle and just get to know him, especially the one that had been travelling in the dog trailer with another entire male. Hormonal bitches can be a bit cranky at the best of times. But if she's really driving him off she's likely not ready and if he's willing to back away it's also a sign she's not really ready. I do know people who will muzzle cranky bitches, especially if the stud is young.

    Is this a breed with a large head on newborn pups and if so I can't recommend strongly enough to get in with some other breeders, I'm very appreciate of all my mentors and I've had very easy birthing breeds.

    On day 11 I'd probably lock the desexed male away. Really depends on whether they spend time together by gates etc.
    Last edited by MAC; 01-14-2012 at 09:06 AM.

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    I see..
    Yeah I'll give it a couple more days and then lock desexed male out of sight..
    My male is keen but she isn't..
    I did notice this morning she is wetter down there then usual, so I am hoping
    everything is starting to move forward and things will happen very soon..


    Nice to talk to people that give helpful hints and feedback

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