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    So a little bit like a spitz. They're very cute.

    One thing whelping supplies doesn't seem to sell is the whelping box. Hopefully experienced breeders will tell you how to make one, and there are a few plans on the web, and apparently you have to make the floor of them lumpy either with that eggshell foam stuff (except puppies tend to eat it and crap in it. or lots of rolled up towels and things.

    Di-dee's long thread about Pretty's pregnancy and whelping runs through details of the whole process including things she didn't see coming. And us telling her off for not planning better - but we got over ourselves.

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...st-season.html

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    We have always had whelping boxes nice and flat, no creases, wrinkles or bumps, that way if mum goes to lay on a pup she can feel it rather than thinking it is just lumpy blankets.
    We do half blankets and half newspaper so that as soon as the pups are moving they start toilet training themselves to paper.

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    I didn't realise that they weren't already here *blush* serves me right for spending too much time on overseas forums!
    So you are under the wing of overseas Buhund breeders? That's a great start - I would look for Finnish Spitz or possibly Norwegian Elkhound breeders near you to talk with
    as there may be some common heritage and similar challenges and problems etc.

    You need to fill in a membership form, you will be category "Ordinary" unless you qualify as a pensioner or a country (non-urban) member. If unsure phone or email the Dogs West office. You will also need to fill in an prefix application form. Dont send any other forms until after your membership and prefix are confirmed.
    The import paperwork leave until 6 - 8 weeks before the dog is due to arrive in Australia. It is very important to familiarise yourself with the Quarantine/Import requirements of AQIS so that you can organise the vaccines etc overseas in a timely manner. It is probably worth the money to have one of the professional dog transport organisations assist you in this as they know all the rules.

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    Thanks RuralPug for the service on the paperwork part and hopefully next week I will be able to chat to several different breeders at the royal

    I am looking to have a professional company bring my dogs home but not sure which one to trust. I am considering Jetpets and Pet Carriers International at the moment. does anyone have any recommendations?

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    I've used Jetpets for interstate and they have been great and had no problems, I don't export so can't help you there. However it is usually the seller that arranges transport from their side but it is the buyer who pays the bill.

    Give the exhibitors at the royal space until they have been in the ring (unless they are not on until late) as they will be busy preparing their dogs.

    As to whelping boxes, they can be easily made at home, I recommend a removable pig rail and while the puppies are young, under 3 weeks and pretty much in mums care the floor/bedding is kept straight.

    I don't have a floor in my whelping box, so it's a four sided box with one side a bit lower for the bitch to get in and out of.

    I put a pce of lino down and then vet bed stretched out and then the box sits on top of that so the vet bed and lino are larger than the box. The weight of the box traps the bedding stops the bitch from scratching up the floor. Puppies can easily get trapped under loose bedding and overheat or get suffocated if the bitch lies on them while they are trapped under loose bedding, remember that heads are down and they heat seek to find the bitch and the milk bar.

    Once they are a bit more mobile then I make the the floor a bit lumpy. At 4 weeks old they are generally in the big C-Crate with a bedding/play area and then a newspaper toilet area.

    In winter I use a heat pad on the floor and place a frame over the box so a doona can be put over the top to trap in body warmth. With your breed this would only need to be done for the first few weeks probably and adjusted according to how long your bitch spends with the pups, you don't want to make it too hot and drive the bitch from the box, but at the same time puppies can't control the body temp at a young age.

    The Whelping box is just screwed together and we take it apart after use and pack it away. My husband built it out of materials left over from other things he'd built.

    But really you'll find all this sort of stuff out as you start to show and meet up with other people. Being a new breed here it will create much interest and you'll make friends around the ring who will be able to advise you of their methods before the time comes.
    Last edited by MAC; 09-28-2011 at 06:25 AM.

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    The whelping Box we looking to build sounds alot like yours MAC. We would like to be able to be able to pack it away when it is not in use and be easier to clean.

    Also thanks for the head up in regards to the show. I plan on watching a few classes and have a look how everyone is set up, handle their dogs ect. Then I can talk to breeders after seeing them and their dogs in action.
    I am also thinking about trying to chat to some farmers see if they might be interested in Buhunds as working dogs too, after all that is what they were bred for.

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    My one is aurora park staffies
    Pride shines in our eyes loyal to a loving heart yes it copy rigth im saving money up to copy rigth it i even have my logo made up allready
    Tip no2 plan a head Look for the best qlady stud
    3 get there trust so you can handle the pups from day dot
    4 when the time comes. For the birth make shoud you breeder you are chating to it on the phone to gride you frow it
    5 trust the mum The. Mum knows what she doing trust her

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    well I have been to the Royal Ag Show and was really impressed. I got lost early in the day and didn't get to see and any of the dog shows but I was able to talk to several breeders and several seemed interested in the Buhund. Another option for breeding also was suggested at least for early stages of breeding was AI to get a good mix of Lines each year.
    Does anybody on DF use AI? What are the pros and cons?

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    I would like to import Karelian Bear Dogs, myself. We have always admired them for years now and know all the breeders around the world. One day if we have the time and money. We plan on importing. Like very one has been saying, step back and take your time, the more time you put into these things the better it will work out for yourself.

    However, I do wish you all the best on your search and hopefully we will see you around the tracts.

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