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    You know nearly all the horse breed studbooks allow other compatable breeds in as foundation breeders to get new bloodlines & fix undesirable trait within theit breed.
    It got me thinking has any dog breed ever allowed new blood in this way???

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    So you get same breed of dog from another breeder to bring in new blood?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peta23 View Post
    So you get same breed of dog from another breeder to bring in new blood?
    I am not for or against just want to know if it's ever been done.
    You could add new bloodline from within the breed but considering the breed may have been founded by only a couple dozen(at most) dogs it isn't really new blood.
    Also in horse breeding they do it when there's a negitive trait that just keeps consistantly popping up within a breed that just isn't fixable via the bloodlines already available within their own breed.

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    Yeah I don't understand dog breeding but I understand livestock breeding..

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    I think I may understand the comman sence approch to commercail livestock breeding better myself. Not that I think if it's ok for livestock then it's ok for dog breeding but I am sure there is stuff to learn there.................

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    Saint Bernards had to use Newf atfter they had a huge loss in gene pool many years ago.
    I read a huge article on it ones, when I was doing some study into the breeds
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    It's called "out crossing", it used to happen quite often before they introduced "breed standards" and dog show competitions.

    Not sure if it happens now. There's quite a few breeds in genetic trouble that need to be outcrossed - but the people in charge of the breed standard would have to agree on with what and how much would be allowed.

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    Yes outcrossing...........
    I never knew it had been done since breed standards etc so it's heartening to know they did use it to try & help the newfies.
    I have seen animals breed back 5 generations from an outcrossing & it really was amazing the positive results it had & how much the animals looked pure but of better type.
    We have a small Africain Dorper Sheep Stud & we we started we had a top of the line imp embroy ram, 2 stude ewes & the rest 3,4& 5f x ewes. Now 5yrs down the track we are finding it's the lambs of the ewes that are now classified as pure but where breed ups are producing the best type lambs. The offspring that is of 100% blood are the 1's we tend to get feat problems,bloat & lower lambing % from.
    I have to say we used very good stock at all levels of the breeding up & culled hard on what was keep as breeding stock.

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    Yes if it was ever done in dogs I would hope it was strickly watched over & good records kept.

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    It has happened a few times to breeds in crisis, like Newfs said. Irish Wolfhounds are a notable one. They were brought back from the brink of extinction by judicious outcrossing (and heavy culling and selection) with breeds that had the desired traits the breed was reknowned for. Great Danes for size and substance, Deerhounds for coat etc.

    Deerhounds were rescued with Borzoi blood once upon a time as well....

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