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    Quote Originally Posted by BULLYT
    I have to say I agree with what you have written here. I really don't understand with this Forum how people start threads and when your opinion differs from the majority, all of a sudden you are "judging" people. I don't judge anybody here, when I post in a thread it is my opinion, I speak truthfully and answer the threads with an open mind to try and see things from another point of view whilst getting my own thoughts heard. I also understand that there will be people who have a differing opinion to mine. That makes neither mine nor theirs right or wrong, it is just that due to our own life experiences etc we have a different view on things.

    I don't think it's that people are offering their differing opinions and getting passionate about it (and it's obviously something to get very passionate about!). At least a few times (and certainly not just recently), people have continued to "offer their opinion" as though they had read only the first post and not the subsequent pages where the OP states how the situation will be rectified so as not to happen again. Or alternatively, what may have been obvious to a registered breeder isn't obvious to the person asking the question/s- and this has happened quite a bit recently!

    I think if they're trying to do their best, then shouldn't they be worth educating?

    MAC, I definitely understand where you're coming from when you say it's "sometimes it's best to let one go for the sake of so many". I also think that not everyone can be so tough-skinned about it, and perhaps that's what's so frustrating about it?
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    It is very hard to be tough, I've never said I like being that way, but if I want to call my self ethical & responsible I have to be. It is however not hard at all to be prepared.

    People can say that breeders should never have bred puppies when they knew that there were problems in their lines, they can ring them up, tell other people about them etc. We can discuss that to the cows come home and say how unethical it is, how can they call themselves responsible breeders etc.

    If a registered breeder got on here and said they were producing puppies even though they knew the mating was not a good idea I have to wonder at people's response, how quick we would all move on?

    Whether you knowingly breed two unfit dogs or you knowingly leave two entire dogs together it's hard for me to get past.

    I could go on and on but you won't change your mind and I won't change yours, but I thought Crested deserved a chance to have her say and why, why she feels so strongly.

    For each time someone said they didn't agree someone still had to counter asking for them to be left alone, a tit for tat process, I call it a forum open for discussion which is why I moved that discussion here away from their Happy Thread.
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    I have guilted some of my close friends into desexing their dogs, I have given them full blown lectures... and these are people very close to me.
    A friend of mine bought a Husky from a BYB, I gave them a lecture. Just the basics. I thought they understood why it was wrong.
    12 months later they wanted to breed him.
    Well... do you think that ended well! They didn't speak to me for several months after the ear full I gave them.

    When they started speaking to me again they told me they had him neutered. Obviously amongst all that fighting something had sunk in.

    I don't know if people get what I'm trying to say, and sometimes I might not say it very well but there is method to my madness.

    If you have a problem with something I have said then let me know privately. I might just read back and think maybe it was a bit too harsh and that gives me the chance to delete it. If someone comes back at me on the forum you can bet your bottom dollar I won't think about it... I just get fired up.
    Not a good quality to have, but that's just me... I blame my mum

    EDIT - Thankyou MAC, I want people to try and understand where I'm coming from is all. I know not many people will agree with it, but at least they will hopefully know why I say what I do.

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    Crested, if you were referring to me "coming back at you", then I apologise. imo, it wasn't your views which stirred everything up, and as a matter of fact, I agree with most of what you and MAC believe in!

    I think it was just that particular thread that stirred people =) It just seemed as though everyone wanted to say their opinion (some of which seemed insulting, which got people more riled up), post after post, and it got bad rather fast (especially since the OP had asked for help and appeared to be doing the right thing).

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    Oh no I didn't think that at all silver! This topic has been very civil, I'm glad we can discuss everything rather than argue.

    The OP was doing the right thing by asking for help I'm not denying that, I just would go about it a different way, which is why I never commented on that
    I can't remember if I have said this before or not and I mean no offense to anyone here, but online forums aren't the best place to get information like that.
    Breeding is something that comes from experience, and the best way to learn is to talk face to face with someone who has been through it before.

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    I don't think you did say that Crested, and I think the OP might have found it useful. Whereas the situation that arose instead could have put her off asking for help from any quarter.

    Not having a go at you, I just think that's the kind of constructive advice that would have been good in that thread rather than 'go back in time and do it differently'

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    Actually she used the word mentor.

    This is what I mean by tit for tat, sticking up for your belief or how you see the situation. It will always go on in a forum.

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    With the way things tend to come out of my mouth (or off my fingers) I was a bit worried it would sound like "don't listen to people here" which is not what I wanted.
    I agree though, I could have gone about it differently.

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    I think most of us could have. I for one went straight into that thread from another where someone was absolutely rubbished for trying to rehome a crossbred pup and I had my hackles up! Which is why I'm now having a one-hour moratorium on commenting on anything that gets me riled

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    Good idea!
    I read that cross-bred thread.
    I could see why people were getting angry (I would have said something similar to most), but it was taken too far.

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