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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post

    Getting back on subject though your Tibbie was kept entire for a reason, so again that's not what "gets under my skin".
    Yeh I know
    I have a horrid habbit of waffling

    I am sorry for what you had to go through with the shelter I understand the desire to help them even whe you just do not have the time. You did what you could for them MAC, I have no doubt of that, some just can not be saved

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    Talking to the queen of waffle here. Going insane monitoring dogs, today is Mickeys first day out with the girls and all going good, they drove him off and he's respected that so they've passed the test and by tomorrow I will be able to go out and leave them without crating etc yippee.

    Tilly is on 74 points, no accidents happening here come hell or high water until that Ch is added to her name she is really hitting her stride at just short of 2yo.

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    OT again...

    Am I right in thinking there is no truth to the idea that desexing a male dog will cause weight gain and personality changes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shar Pei Rescue Victoria View Post
    Red, MAC is well reputed as being a reputable and responsible breeder. I am 1000km away and I know this from the internal dog world, not because I have met MAC. A reputation that preceeds in this case!
    I realise that,just going by the strength in the posts made,by the words used. This is what i am liking,and this was why i asked the question i did on the age that it can be done. As i stated in the post i made,some have said 5mths,yet i have heard it can be done earlier. I just wish to be safe. Even thou i am unsure on the sex my dog will be,it will still be done. The breeder i am going thru will give a male or female,but prefers to adopt out judging by personality. After talking with my daughter we decided that a puppy is like a real baby,you dont know what sex your getting until you get them,and like a real baby,we do not wish to know until such time as we have paid for our little bundle and pick him/her up from the airport (me being in Victoria,the breeder in NSW).

    I have located and since been in contact with now 2 other breeders,one of which is an hour away from me,but i very much like the sound of the breeder i will go thru in NSW. The way he speaks,the love he has for his dogs,all up i know i will be getting a quality dog from a real breeder,not just someone out to make a $$. Please dont get me wrong,im not against people making money,i just wish my pup to be healthy and to have been breed with all the best intentions.

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    Red, I understood you were asking about age of de-sexing and whether it can be younger. And at the same time would like to thank Shar for her kind words, I'll pay her later .

    I think 5 months is a good age as I previously posted. I am however not an expert on the breed you have chosen. Some breeds come in early and some breeds late and then some dogs just throw the whole system out the door.

    Generally speaking the smaller the breed the earlier they mature, GENERALLY speaking though 5 months is about the earliest any breed of dog comes in season.

    Suggest speaking to your vet at your 12 wks old appointment. People can survive having entire dogs it's a matter of planning.

    Be guided by your breeder since you have good faith in them.

    Good luck look forward to seeing pics of you new baby when it arrives. I sent a puppy to WA recently and the little boy was able to do a show and tell from all the pictures I'd sent him, I did this because they'd missed out on visiting the litter prior to taking their puppy home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nattylou View Post
    Insert scenario here:

    Person takes on a bitch from a hideous situation. A very well bred, lovely example of her breed that deserved far, far better, for no other reason than to fix her up and find her the home she deserved - ie. not that person's usual breed. Here is a breed that is very, very hard to pet home, and this girls best chance was in a great show or breeding home - of which she was a very worthy girl.

    Girl is in season, locked "safely" away. Owner's male is let out to toilet in separate section of yard, girls climbs one fence and smashes (and I mean SMASHES) six foot solid timber gate and is tied with male before anyone can intervene.

    Girl goes to vet for course of expensive injections. All seems good. Later, is found that said expensive injections work on 90 something percent of girls - she is in the other few percent. She is now in late term pregnancy.

    What to do now? Desex at late stage? Vet says, big risk...
    Risk her life and ruin her future show and breeding prospects? Or take responsibilty for what happened and deal with it.

    Choose deal with it. Life deals crap sometimes, play your hand.
    7 Crossbred pups are born. 3 survive for numerous reasons not related to care or husbandry. Mum rejects them at 4 days and the next few weeks are a blur of vet visits, bottle feeds and bills.

    Pups desexed and rehomed at 8 weeks, with known and trusted friends. Lifetime support offered - one is returned at 8 months no questions asked.

    It may not be every scenario - but Oops litters certainly do happen.

    That, above, was me. And it was a very, very difficult time. There was a vast swathe of personal things going on at the time that made it nearly unbearable. But my mistake caused those pups to exist, so it was my responsibility to make the best of it, even if they stayed with me for their lives.

    Every situation is different.

    Lots of breeders house different breeds of dogs and sometimes the worst can happen. Dogs are wily creatures when it comes to breeding. The pups can end up in a bucket of water or similar, or the owner can take responsibilty for becoming involved in this crap situation and do what they can to ensure a good safe life for those pups.

    Be slow to judge others and perhaps you will be afforded the same courtesy one day.
    First of all Natty, I don't see ANYWHERE in my post that I have judged anybody!!! The post is my own opinion and is based on what I believe and what experiences I have had. I do not understand why people get so damn defensive if somebody dares have a different opinion on this forum!! Actually reading the thread, I'm not the only one who thinks like this regarding oops litters.
    Apologies if I don't sit here feeling sorry for you because you had to deal with an unplanned litter but we are different people and yes if I was in that situation I would have had a late abortion. I would have desexed the bitch and spent my time trying to find her a forever pet home. I would rather the risk involved with the late desexing than the risk involved in her having pups and all that comes with that. That is nothing against you at all Natty but you did ask what would I do. At least you desexed the pups before they went to new homes.

    And as for people having unplanned litters with rescues, for me that is just not on. But like everything I say, that is my opionion and no offence intended towards anyone.

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    I would not have gone against my vet's very firm opinion that in my case it was too late to abort. I pay him for his knowledge and if he told me it is too risky then too risky it is.

    (this was not my bitch at the time and I had no knowledge of her pregnancy till I saw her, took over and to the vet asap to see if abortion was viable)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    I would not have gone against my vet's very firm opinion that in my case it was too late to abort. I pay him for his knowledge and if he told me it is too risky then too risky it is.

    (this was not my bitch at the time and I had no knowledge of her pregnancy till I saw her, took over and to the vet asap to see if abortion was viable)
    I wouldnt go against what a vet says either but if the vet told me it was possible to late abort and there might be risk, then I would be aborting. Obviously your situation is different in that the vet said its too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BULLYT View Post
    I wouldnt go against what a vet says either but if the vet told me it was possible to late abort and there might be risk, then I would be aborting. Obviously your situation is different in that the vet said its too late.
    You would abort even if there was risk to the bitch?

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    I guess about now some of us "Agree to disagree" with others "Agreeing to disagree about various degrees of this subject."

    Sounds silly I know but I guess that's where're at.

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