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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemiannic View Post
    This would mean that a lot of the people on this forum shouldn't own dogs?I would agree if we were talking about skin children, but dogs grow up a lot faster. I think as long as you are there for the first 4-6 weeks with your new fur baby to make sure it is settled and then spend plenty of time with your fur baby when you are not at work and also spend the time training etc, I can see no problem.
    It sometimes takes two pays to be able to provide a fur child with everything it needs including vet bills.
    Um, not sure if I'm expected to answer that question on a public forum, so will choose not to.

    I stand by my opinion sorry Bo. If I were a breeder I would not sell a puppy to a one-dog household if the owner/s were at work full-time.
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    So it is okay for people who have partners that earn plenty to support them to have dogs, but it is not okay for a couple that both work to have a dog (singular).
    So if the dog gets really ill for one reason or another(and I mean in the big $s, not the one or two hundred or a thousand), who will be in a better position to pay the vet bills?
    I understand animals get lonely, that is why we provide them with distractions like kongs etc., weather might change, so we provide them with kennel and access to get out of the weather or access to inside. We socialise them each day when not at work and spend most waking hours with them when we are not at work.
    To be honest, if I was a breeder, if the people wanting the dog could not afford vet bills in excess of say $5,000 in one hit, I would not allow them to have a pup!
    Also if I were a dog breeder, I would ask people to sit a pyschological test. If they didn't pass it, they wouldn't get a pup!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemiannic View Post
    So it is okay for people who have partners that earn plenty to support them to have dogs, but it is not okay for a couple that both work to have a dog (singular). So if the dog gets really ill for one reason or another(and I mean in the big $s, not the one or two hundred or a thousand), who will be in a better position to pay the vet bills?
    I understand animals get lonely, that is why we provide them with distractions like kongs etc., weather might change, so we provide them with kennel and access to get out of the weather or access to inside. We socialise them each day when not at work and spend most waking hours with them when we are not at work.
    To be honest, if I was a breeder, if the people wanting the dog could not afford vet bills in excess of say $5,000 in one hit, I would not allow them to have a pup!
    Also if I were a dog breeder, I would ask people to sit a pyschological test. If they didn't pass it, they wouldn't get a pup!
    No Bo, I am not and have not said that. I have stated that if I were a breeder I would not sell a certain breed to that scenario. That would be my choice as breeder.

    I tend to agree with you regarding the financial back-up of funds for any potential dog owner. I'm not sure I'd agree on the amount, but i do think ppl should consider having some dollars to fall back on if illness/injury occur, or perhaps I would steer them towards pet insurance, or like some breeders I know, include the first 3-6 months of pet insurance in the purchase price.

    I sooo like your idea of a physchological test, but must admit that would be a hard one to achieve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz & Banjo View Post
    Just curious lol
    Will take no offence I promise!
    but if your dog had a litter would you accept me as a potential buyer? (for pet)
    22 and work full time with partner is 27 working full time. Huge back yard and allowed inside, very secure, no other pets or kids, take it for walks every day and to training.
    what else would you need to know to accept me?
    Ok...

    From what you said I would accept you onto my list. 1st stage, to start the process of seeing if you would fit one of my dogs.
    Like everyone has said it really does depend on the breed.
    As for your working, you sound more than willing to fill the gaps and for my breed that would not be too big a problem. They may get lonley but there are ways to compensate, which you sound like you would be willing to explore and some dogs do not mind being in only dog families.

    You seem very open to help and advice and I only wish all my potential clients were as easy to get info out of as you are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Krystal, I answered Jazz because she promised she would take no offence from anybody's answers. Are you willing to do the same?
    Ok no offence will be taken I would like to know so that I am prepared to make the changes and right decisions and still have the time to change my mind if I don't think I can handle it. I would appreciate your thoughts as someone who owns and knows about GSD's. At the moment all I can do is read about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    No Bo, I am not and have not said that. I have stated that if I were a breeder I would not sell a certain breed to that scenario. That would be my choice as breeder.

    I tend to agree with you regarding the financial back-up of funds for any potential dog owner. I'm not sure I'd agree on the amount, but i do think ppl should consider having some dollars to fall back on if illness/injury occur, or perhaps I would steer them towards pet insurance, or like some breeders I know, include the first 3-6 months of pet insurance in the purchase price.

    I sooo like your idea of a physchological test, but must admit that would be a hard one to achieve.
    I think DA, that this could be achieved if the breeder was equiped with the right questions, but also it would have to be a breeder who truely cared about the dogs. There are plenty of people who buy dogs from breeders who might have the right homes/yards for the dogs, but are physchologically unsound to own dogs. I am not talking about mental health here either. There is a certain way people behalve and the way that they speak about getting certain breeds of dogs that should have responsible breeders on edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemiannic View Post
    I think DA, that this could be achieved if the breeder was equiped with the right questions, but also it would have to be a breeder who truely cared about the dogs. There are plenty of people who buy dogs from breeders who might have the right homes/yards for the dogs, but are physchologically unsound to own dogs. I am not talking about mental health here either. There is a certain way people behalve and the way that they speak about getting certain breeds of dogs that should have responsible breeders on edge.
    Yes, I would agree with you there 100% and more. Come across a lot of ppl whose first thought when it comes to the GSD is "fierce" or "mean guarding machine." If I was a breeder, I wouldn't sell to them, obviously.

    I think the hard part with the first sentence of your post is that try and tell any breeder they Don't care, and OMG. Yet IMO there are great breeders, and mediocre ones, and darned crappy ones too. They all care about their dogs to a huge degree, so I think it also comes down to what each of us believe a breeder should be like etc, if that makes sense? Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Yes, I would agree with you there 100% and more. Come across a lot of ppl whose first thought when it comes to the GSD is "fierce" or "mean guarding machine." If I was a breeder, I wouldn't sell to them, obviously.

    I think the hard part with the first sentence of your post is that try and tell any breeder they Don't care, and OMG. Yet IMO there are great breeders, and mediocre ones, and darned crappy ones too. They all care about their dogs to a huge degree, so I think it also comes down to what each of us believe a breeder should be like etc, if that makes sense? Lol.
    I know what that is like. Having owned a GSD who was trained as a personal guard dog, people thought him to be fierce or mean guarding machine!
    He was obedient, was great protection which was mostly because of his bark and stance! Apart from that he was suck a sook! That was why he was named Zook (or Zookie) to us.
    Walking into the vets with Zook walking on just his back legs, and he was taller than me, had a lot of people shaking in their boots!
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    Yes, they can be soky, but not in a sooky way IMo.

    What I meant by those comments is that I have known ppl who wanted to purchase one for those reasons - didn't see the dog as what it is, an extremely intelligent breed, one ready to live and die to serve, one that needs to be kept stimulated and growing all the time - they just wanted a guard dog to chuck out the back and scare the pants off ppl.

    Look, couple of areas of Qld currently have them under the dangerous dog list. They could be from BYBs, who knows unless one lives there or is acquanted with residents of those areas. But I still think many breeders need to take more care with whom they sell their dogs to. Just my opinion.
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    I would sell a dog to a person who works full time, used to do so myself, BUT, they have to be a full-on dog person or someone who is prepared to compensate for the time they are away.

    This doesn't mean opening the back door and letting them in the minute they get home. This means stimulation and exercise. So that person has to be prepared to walk them when they get home tired or not, and go to training classes, tired or not. Weather a few holes and eaten outdoor furniture without throwing in the towel and saying it's all too hard off to the pound, and accepting that in all likely that is exactly what will happen, puppies chew, cry and dig it is normal behaviour not abnormal behaviour.

    The size of the yard will become more important (breed specific) for the full time worker.

    I've been to homes where there is someone home all day, and very recently I might add and the dogs are out of control and taking over. They may have done better with some time away from their owner and being treated like a dog.

    I do like two dogs in a full-time working home, but I also like at least a year between them.

    I don't like it when people take time off work to settle in a puppy unless they can assure me they will do tough love and not smother the puppy so that puppy misses them even more when they do go to work.

    There are some ideal breeds for working people, then there are breeds where I think unless the person is experienced with the breed then I would say no.

    I have a couple of sticking points. Which are
    Do you know the breed?
    Are you prepared to have things destroyed and dug up?
    Are you prepared to exercise the dog and at least attend puppy pre-school.
    The dog will be returned to me if for any reason you can no longer keep it or I will be advised if the dog is to be re-homed to someone else.
    I will be the alternate contact on the microchip details.

    After that we converse via email and then phone and then meet in person.

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