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    Hi again Siska

    I will try to be brief on this as it is such an emotive subject for me .

    To me a registered breeder becomes a Puppy Farmer/BYB the minute they breed two dogs together without thinking - is this going to better/improve my breed/lines?
    To me that is what being a 'breeder' is all about.
    Loving your breed and doing everything in your power to keep you breed safe and see it improve.

    I totally agree that some registered breeders are nothing more than Farmers with a prefix . But at least they can be governed at the moment , BYB's cannot.

    I do not mean to lump all people in the same boat but can I ask why your friend would want to breed crosses ?
    oh and kudos to her for doing all relevant testing etc...does she also have a desexing contract or similar in place? or are the pups desexed before they leave? Also does your friend agree to take back any pups should the new owners have drama's ?
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    Hi Siska,

    Arggh how do i "quote' a specific part of your post? I tried but quoted the whole lot!

    Moving on,

    I hear what you are saying and you are right there is good and bad in all things in life. There are some shonky RB true, though they pale in insignificance to great repuatable RB's.

    On the other hand there are a multitude of shonky, cruel and immoral cross breeders who are simply interested in $$$.
    Designer dog breeders are rife in this country and the evidence of their trail of destruction is seen all over this country esspecially in pounds and shelters.

    BYB and puppy farmers are an absolute disgrace without question.

    The term puppy farmer and BYB applies when dogs are bred and sold for a commercial market. Be that in a pet shop, over the internet, trading post, on a notice board, over the fence, or a combination of all or any of those...you get the drift.

    Perhaps the most important thing to consider is not our own want's and desires more the one in four healthy, happy impounded family pets who's lives are snuffed out every single minute of the day, day in day out.

    Why are we persisting on breeding more animals when animals already born and in urgent need continue to die? Hundreds of thousands a year are killed, beautiful rehomeable family pets.

    Perhaps as human beings and a hopefully compassionate race we should say enough....and stop being so completely self absorbed and pre occupied with our "want's" and look beyond that.

    I listened to the gorgeous Paul Watson who captains the "Sea Shepard" and fights with all he has the neanderthals who continue to slaughter whales and seals in protected waters and land.

    Paul said something along the lines of "It is individuals who make a vast difference in this world"....that I have never known any government body or politician to make any difference for animals in this world. It is individuals, even if only a handful who create positive change"

    Every single one of us can make a difference, and i reakon that is outstanding.

    B

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    Some photos' of puppy farmed dogs.

    The majority would have been humanely euthenased as they have essentially gone mad from years of neglect.

    B
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    A BYB (Back Bard Breeder)
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    So tell me...how does one begin to address the problem of regulating designer dog breeding when it is driven soley by profit and at the sickening expense of mans best friend?

    B

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    I have friends who went looking for a purebred pup, and were recommended a certain breeder by the breed club. The pups were $1200 each and there was a waiting list.

    When they went there they had over 70 breeding dogs on the property (not including pups). She eventually agreed to take a mature female, who was free.

    They were told this girl was four, and that her last litter of 16 (yes - 16!) pups had all been sold for $1600 each as they were an in demand colour (try adding that one up...). The new owner was also told that this had only been her second litter.

    When she went to the vets to be desexed he nearly lost her on the table. The vet said "Wet a tissue and put it on the table, then try and pick it up. That was what her uterus was like." Her $300 desex turned into an expensive emergency due to blood loss etc.

    She was at least 8, and had done nothing but breed. One more litter would've ruptured and killed her.

    The scary thing is that these breedrs had obviously (through trial and error no doubt) realised the maximum output for a female, and were just getting rid of them after that. This poor girl is a basket case.

    She's also the only dog who has ever really bitten me (among others) - when I walked into her owner's house she dived out from underneath and grabbed the back of my calf - ouch... And borders on being a liability for her owner who refuses to give up on her.

    She is terrified of everyone, and everything, and took a long time to adjust to not living in a small cage.

    I shudder to think of her previous llife in a cage producing pups. It's not only cross breeders that behave this way...

    Education has to be the key. But how do you force people to give a damn??

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    I agree, well said.

    In the UK rescued pets and pets from repuatable RB's are very much the first point of call for people looking for a new family member. It's not perfect yet but the momentum is growing steadily.

    Interestingly change was brought about through great education not legislation.

    Educating the public with the facts and giving them support in knowing how to buy a healthy, happy, well adjusted new family member is vital.

    People are then able to make up their own minds based on what they have learnt. They also are empowered by choosing breeders who they would like to support and opposing those who knowingly breed using cruel and inhumane conditions.

    I simply can not imagine anyone being well informed and well educated, who is compasionate and loves animals supporting cruelty in breeding practices.

    The thing is this is a multi billion dollar industry, and what they are doing is not illegal....there is simply no legislation in place. They don't want us to know for good reason. They don't want us to make an educated decision as they are well aware they will loose profits.

    Advertising campains are very expensive, and that is what is desperately needed over an extended period of time.

    I am so sorry to hear of your friends girl her story is symbolic for so very many just like her.
    Some of these angels take years and years to recover, some do not ever recover. Your friends are truly inspirational in their devotion and i comend them.

    How can you walk away....it is just impossible knowing how she has lived.

    The great majority of females bred like this die during delivery all alone, many are inhumanely killed when they reach their expiry date, it is just tragic.

    And this happens day in, day out. It is nothing short of an epidemic.

    B

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    huh? is this the same siska that owns an AST?

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    That thought crossed my mind as well Sarah .
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    Yeah its not a name ive seen b4 but i guess this is the WWW lol anything is possible.

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