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    why in this day and age of computers and info at your finger tips, google and the like that people can suddenly be so ignorant of dog breeds???

    Have been contact by person with a "free-range" bunny in the back yard about a whippet puppy. They sounded great, only work 3 day/wk, yes puppy will be allowed in house, yes they will join puppy pre-school etc etc.

    But when I go on to explain about sight hounds that's when they inform me of the rabbit. Now I know very well there are exceptions. Had a dog and a free-range bunny myself.

    But she really thought if they were brought up together that it would be alright. I of course can not guarantee that and if a person is that silly I can not in all honesty sell a puppy to that type of person.

    But if someone could just explain to me why people suddenly become so ignorant when it comes to the subject of dogs when it is just so easy to type Whippet into the computer and get a wealth of information that would suggest to you that rabbits and sight hounds are not a good mix.

    Just what is it that can make people so so.......dumb.

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    Asking a whippet not to chase is the same as asking a terrier not to dig and a Rottweiler not to guard!

    I don't think people are dumb...I just think they read the information they want to read/see and overlook the rest, because "she'll be alright". Gone are the days were people had to meet in person to evaluate the breeder and the breeder to evaluate the potential owners to some extent. You can buy "mail-order" puppies which is a practice I do not agree with. I don't like the idea of receiving a puppy from a breeder I have never met and seen the living conditions the dogs/bitches/puppies are in OR selling a puppy to people I have never met! I am not saying you do this MAC!

    At the end of the day you are at peoples mercy, because honestly they can say anything. They can say they live on 5 acres...work from home...will tell you what you want to hear eg diet etc. These people could have chosen not to tell you about the bunny and you wold never have known...they would just have been nice people who wanted a puppy And THEN you would have gotten a phone call when the whippet ate their bunny or used the bunny as chasing practice I guess the people did the right thing by telling you and then it is up to you to decide whether you think it is the best place for your puppy.

    I think to be honest...if someone thinks it is "ok" to have a bunny with a whippet (and no being an experienced whippet owner)...then you have not done your homework. You can not take the sighthound out of the whippet just like it is impossible to take the terrier out of my dogs.

    I think with Google...internet pages...websites come conflicting information too. People take on board what they want to and go with that.

    Did they tell you why they have chosen the whippet as their breed?

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    They said they liked their size and exercise requirements, low maintenance coat etc, good with kids etc. That's when I went on to describe sight hounds in general, how mine chase the bandicoots and you have to be aware where you let them off lead, that's when she mentioned the rabbit. She had looked at some rescue sites at Whippet X's which said they were safe with cats. These dogs may have been temp tested with cats, but there is still a big difference between a cat and a rabbit and I also think there is a big difference between the dogs own cat and say next doors cat.

    Rest assured no one gets a puppy off me without me meeting them. But I am happy that the first point of contact is via email, then phone, then in person. I like them to come to me so that they can see the adults in action (so to speak) and are not sucked in by pretty puppy pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    They said they liked their size and exercise requirements, low maintenance coat etc, good with kids etc. That's when I went on to describe sight hounds in general, how mine chase the bandicoots and you have to be aware where you let them off lead, that's when she mentioned the rabbit. She had looked at some rescue sites at Whippet X's which said they were safe with cats. These dogs may have been temp tested with cats, but there is still a big difference between a cat and a rabbit and I also think there is a big difference between the dogs own cat and say next doors cat.

    Rest assured no one gets a puppy off me without me meeting them. But I am happy that the first point of contact is via email, then phone, then in person. I like them to come to me so that they can see the adults in action (so to speak) and are not sucked in by pretty puppy pictures.
    I think it is a case of not doing enough homework to be honest! It is always easy to go all gooey over puppies, but some people forget they don't stay puppy...just like you said

    Safe around cats...my cat is safe around my dogs as long as she doesn't run...then their prey instinct kicks in immediately...it is something we are still working on Would the next door neighbour's cat be safe...I seriousy doubt it! I cringe by the thought of what would happen if a rabbit came on our property...it wouldn't be pretty!

    I think sometimes it is just best to walk away...saying that you do not believe putting a whippet with a bunny is in the best interest of either the puppy or the bunny. It would be the same when I have to sell puppies. SBT's dig...they LOVE it. This is information I will definitely give potential owners and if they say...well, we cherish our award-winning garden...I will say, then an SBT is NOT for you...sorry.

    In a perfect world people would do their homework, but unfortunately it is not the case.

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    This is one of the reasons why we do home checks, no matter where the home is. I agree with Clea, people only want to hear/read what they want to, I'd say we turn down more people at phone stage than anything else.

    The other week I spoke for over an hour to a lovely lady, she had a fabulous home on offer, explained about sighthounds etc, but the clincher was that she had an off-leash dog park opposite her but it wasn't fenced. She wanted a dog she could let off for a fun which was fair enough, she didn't think it would be a problem. Park was boundaried by 2 main roads, AND apparently there were wild rabbits in the park. Not a good combination IMO, so I referred her to a few websites.

    We also had an instance of taking a dog all the way to Canberra, only to have to turn around and come back (thank dog I wasn't the one to do it). Once again, phone interview, sent them our questionnaire, asked for photos of yard and house which they sent. They said no other pets, all sounded good. Get to Canberra, guess what? They had FERRETS! Which ran loose in the house! AAAAGGH!!!!! What a waste of time and petrol. Just as well I hadn't been the one to go, I would have done my nut.

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    Yeah, I guess I just find it incredible. You would think that every man and his dog would know what greyhounds do best. I wouldn't of thought it would even take a great deal of intelligence to work it out!!

    I just got of the phone, shook my head and thought, god, and they have kids!!

    I googled whippet, the first thing you see is Don Bourke's run down on the whippet, and yep, stated clearly is that they are not safe around SWF things.

    I guess I'll learn one day not to be surprised by the human race.
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    I dont know about the computer part, but no joke many people I've met think 'different breeds' just means different looking /different shaped dogs.

    Breed traits dont enter the mind for a second untill its spelled out. And even then sometimes the penny does not drop.

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    Well we (some of us) have been saying in here that you can train a dog to do anything if you try hard enough eg train afghan hounds to come when called, and heelers not to chase cars or joggers or bicycles but... I guess there's a limit.

    And the rabbit might die waiting for the training to be completed.

    Now if I could just get Frosty to kill mice instead of just licking them... Then again, there are whole bunch of other things I don't want her to kill, like lizards so maybe it's as well how it is and I kill the mice. Sigh.

    And it never ceases to amaze me how stupid some people can be. Even I have my moments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    I dont know about the computer part, but no joke many people I've met think 'different breeds' just means different looking /different shaped dogs.

    Breed traits dont enter the mind for a second untill its spelled out. And even then sometimes the penny does not drop.
    This is SO true.....I wish more people would educate themselves about the breed they have or are about to purchase!

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    If she'd asked me do you think it's possible that they could co-exist, or what steps should I take re training, well then I'd at least know she'd researched the breed. But to be totally ignorant of the possibility astounds me.

    We had a rabbit with the Kelpie and with the Setter. The Kelpie I trusted and in fact the only time the rabbit went into its hutch was when I took the dog out.

    Gemma used to walk around with it in her mouth and I never left her unsupervised with it.

    My whippets not a chance in hell would I trust them. They have LC titled dogs throughout their pedigree.

    Anyway, I guess I just wonder where people's head are at.

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