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    Default Bitches being overprotective.. is it due to Pregnancy??

    hi there,

    My Name is Stace and im new to the forum. My female Labrador is 1 1/2 years old and already had 1 litter of pups. I think she is pregnant again as she has become incrediably protective of me. Last time we didn't know she was pregnant until the week before she was due, so im not sure what signs to look for. The did an ultrasound at 4 weeks past mating and found nothing so we assumed she wasn't pregnant.

    She had an ultrasound today but they were unsure as to whether the dots were pups or poop. but going on her last pregnancy they could be pups and she could be a last show'er. Please help... a lil confused atm..

    TIA

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    I dont know enough about dog pregnancy to help you about the protective issue. But i must ask, why did you get her pregnant so soon after her last pregnancy. She needs a break, its tough work being pregnant and then giving birth and raising the pups!

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    Babies having babies... This girl may be only just coming into maturity. An 18 month old lab is only a juvenile.

    She may be just growing up a bit, or she may be pregnant - if she has been in season recently and unsupervised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyGloom View Post
    hi there,

    My Name is Stace and im new to the forum. My female Labrador is 1 1/2 years old and already had 1 litter of pups. I think she is pregnant again as she has become incrediably protective of me. Last time we didn't know she was pregnant until the week before she was due, so im not sure what signs to look for. The did an ultrasound at 4 weeks past mating and found nothing so we assumed she wasn't pregnant.

    She had an ultrasound today but they were unsure as to whether the dots were pups or poop. but going on her last pregnancy they could be pups and she could be a last show'er. Please help... a lil confused atm..

    TIA
    I can't tell you how horrified I am by what you are doing.

    1. Labrador bitches should not have puppies at all before they are 2 years old.

    2. Bitches need to have a 18 month or more break between puppies to remain healthy.

    This is some of the ANKC Code of ethics.
    12. A member shall not breed with a bitch unless the bitch has reached adequate maturity for that
    breed as determined by the member’s Member Body.

    13. A member shall not breed a bitch (except under extenuating circumstances) causing it to
    whelp more than twice in eighteen months without the prior approval of the member’s
    Member Body.

    14. A member shall not breed a bitch (except under extenuating circumstances) causing it to
    whelp more than six times without prior veterinary certification of fitness for further breeding,
    and without prior approval of the member’s Member Body.
    DogsWest - Members Code of Ethics

    And from an ethical labrador breeder.
    Breeding your Labrador - Exelby Labradors
    First of all, no bitch should be bred before the age of 2.
    This is the RSPCA position on responsible breeding.
    What is a responsible companion animal breeder? - RSPCA Australia knowledgebase
    You clearly fail on
    3. Demonstrate a genuine concern for the animals in their care - they tend to ask prospective buyers many questions and ensure that the new owner and the animal will be a good match. e.g. a working dog is only sold to a person who can provide this type of active dog with enough mental and physical activity.
    And haven't shown that you're even aware of DNA testing to avoid passing on hereditary diseases for the puppies, or that you have homes lined up for any of them.

    I'm surprised your vet hasn't given you a lecture, tho they stand to make a lot of money from future hip joint surgeries not to mention all the puppies you're foisting on the unwary puppy buyer.

    I would get the dog desexed ASAP as you clearly should not be letting your dog breed.

    This forum isn't completely hung up on whether you register with ANKC or even if you mate two different breeds, but you'd better be following the responsible and ethical guidelines written with your bitch and the puppies health and well being in mind or we're not going to be nice.

    I expect responses to be polite but we're not going to encourage what you're doing.

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    If my bitch suddenly became different in behaviour, i would go through a check list of what might be wrong?
    Is your dog in pain? this causes a change in mannerisms for my GSD. Grumpy, intolerant of others. aloof dog pack leader for eg.

    I think that you have anthropomorphized your dog. What she is doing, is resource gaurding a object. You happen to be the object.
    You say, 'She is being protective'. this is a nice fluffy human term with judgement. What she is actually doing will be something like: not allowing other dogs nearby you, lip curling, growling, sharp barks, full eye contact. Sitting closer to you. Barging in. This is not 'protection'. She is not fearing your safety from the other dogs, so she wont be feeling a need to protect by logic.
    It is fear of losing you/your attention. The right to dictate who/when/how gets near you repertoire of behaviour.

    Either way, its not nice.
    So lets not encourage it.

    Put her out, or you walk away, disengage with meeting her need.
    Let her back in after 5 mins
    Repeat if she resource gaurds again.
    she's a lazy bitch, she'll work it out fast im sure.

    That is my objective answer to your questions.
    the caveat being, in consultation with your vet.
    I hope all goes well for you and yours

    All that walking around, should speed things up.

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    She could have an infection or be ill as well, or having a phantom pregnancy. Spey your bitch for goodness sake, a dog that young should not be potentially on her second litter.

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    Your poor poor dog

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    Stace I really hope you come back to the forum and read through the responses because it is obvious you love your dog.

    Breaks my heart to read posts like this one, That poor puppy, cos that's what she is. I cannot abide anyone allowing their 'pet' dog to breed when the shelters are bursting at the seams. Please get her spayed ASAP.

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    What an odd post. Not knowing she was pregnant before the last week and then another potential pregnancy at 1 1/2. Surely a vet can tell if the lumps are pups or poop. The pups would be in the uterus. Isnt there a blood test? To avoid your confusion I would seriously think about what you are doing. Do some reading on this subject and manage your bitch when she comes into season or get her speyed, or she is at risk of being perpetually pregnant. If you have mated her deliberately both times this is hard to understand.
    It is hard to get a sense of what you are trying to achieve.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 07-12-2013 at 02:59 PM.

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    To everyone that has just put me down and said i'm doing the wrong thing. Thanks (insert sarcasm) the first pregnancy was unplanned and I had ultrasounds and tests done and the vets said that she wasn't pregnant. There was nothing in her tummy. She went on heat at 11months old and was staying at my mums with her dogs. If we had of known she was pregnant we would have spayed her. We bought her to breed after 2 years of age. This time around I was looking after my mums boy for a weekend and she went on heat. (I was going on 11 months and she has been with him before and nothing happened). and plus we already had buyers for the first litter and for any litter she has again. She is not pregnant this time and now that I have changed Vets and know her cycle she wont be getting pregnant for a while.

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