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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyGloom View Post
    I have given all the owners that bought the pups off of me the option for me to take the pups back if they cannot manage.
    One of the pups needed surgery at 6weeks of age which I paid for myself and took care of all the aftercare. Yes I have done the wrong thing in letting her breed and have pups so young and i take full responsibility. I would love to learn more, preferably in training her (not that she isn't well behaved already) maybe agility??
    You didn't answer my questions. Do you have certificates proving her parents/grandparents are free of genetic diseases? Do you have mains registered papers for your bitch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mymatejack View Post
    You didn't answer my questions. Do you have certificates proving her parents/grandparents are free of genetic diseases? Do you have mains registered papers for your bitch?
    The answer to part of this is probably in Rubyglooms previous posts which would suggest the answer to the health certificates is no.

    So further discussion around that point is probably good. Mains registered paper bit is something I have never been hung up on because I have working bred dogs and these are irrelevant. With a labrador I personally like the field bred lines but they are often imported dogs.

    Rubygloom the benefit of having a mains registered dog (excluding working dogs) is that it gives you the ability if you have that dog from a good breeder to access a lot of information about the dogs lines and genetic health status. Generally a good breeder will only allow the best quality pups to go on the mains register.

    Agility, retrieving, obedience, RallyO are all excellent sports to investigate. Perhaps give Canine association in your state a call and they can put you on to relevent clubs. You will also meet a lot of people with a good knowledge of dogs.
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    preferably in training her (not that she isn't well behaved already) maybe agility??
    That might be a whole nother thread.

    You can do agility with a Labrador - it's best to start with foundations - like teaching a really good stay and recall no matter what distractions are around (like barking running dogs and people), and teaching her that she has a back end and how to use it and general body strengthening and flexibility exercises... no jumping or A frames or dog walks etc until the dog is mature in the bones and joints or you risk damaging her early.

    Do you know what "hip scores" are? They are usually measured from xrays taken when the dog is under anaesthetic (so it won't move and blur the shots). not a good idea to do agility with a dog that might have Hip Displasia.

    Not that I've checked my dog.

    The other problem you're going to encounter is you won't be able to *compete* in any ANKC affiliated competitions unless your dog has an ANKC pedigree or is desexed (or both). There is a competition run by ADAA which does not have the same rules but I don't know if they do any competition in WA. I think they do but I'm not sure.

    But you can still train all that stuff and do something called "mock trials". Naturally it is not ok for you to show up to a dog competition (or training) with a bitch in heat. The test is usually done with a bit of wet paper towel to the bitches bits to look for blood, by a vet (who checks for other signs like swelling). But I'm guessing that's not too often, and you can also put a bitch on the dog equivalent of the pill if you need more help managing these things.

    You might also like a relatively new sport called "rally obedience" which would be good foundation training for agility, which is like obedience except you're allowed to talk to your dog and encourage it all the way through. And there is another sport called "dances with dogs" which I think a lab would be good at. And there is also the Gun dog / retriever competitions. But they probably would only welcome pedigree dogs. My dog being a unpedigreed mutt is not allowed near the gundog/retriever comps as far as I know. And there is also Tracking... most dogs that like to go sniff are good at that.

    I'm glad you came back. Do get more help from your dog's breeder about managing seasons.

    And I guess you already know how messy the whole process is, and how many health risks a pregnancy includes. Do ask your vet for more help and advice about these things, so if you must take this path, you can do the best with what you've got. If she was my dog - she'd be getting desexed at around 2 years old (or whatever age bone maturity is for a Lab).

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    I didnt twig that you are in WA!. Yes we do have a good number ADAA agility trials over here and there are also quite a few really great obedience and agility clubs with great instructors who are top handlers themselves. I can point you in the right direction if you are interested depending on where you live. They always welcome enthusiastic newbies. There quite a few labs in obedience and agility, tracking, rally obedience and DWD and of course retrieving!

    I dont know what the rules are with retrieving trials, they are only open to retrieving breeds like labs. Same with herding trials are open only to herding breeds but they dont have to be ANKC Purebreds. I do herding and all my sheepdogs are sporting registered dogs and they allow associates as long as they are of a recognisable herding breed.

    To belong to the ANKC and compete in their trials your dog has to be sterilised unless it is on the ANKC main or limited registers or on the sporting registers. Sporting registered dogs are on other recognised registers like the working dog registers. ADAA agility doesnt care about such things and welcomes all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post


    Not that I've checked my dog.
    But you're not intending to breed your dog are you hyacinth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mymatejack View Post
    But you're not intending to breed your dog are you hyacinth?
    'mymatejack' - Unless it is a miracle - as in 'immaculate conception' - would have to say the answer would have to be No ! smiley-eatdrink004.gif

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    Dogs can be registered with the ANKC as "Associate Dogs" which allows them to compete and obtain titles in all ANKC activities except for conformation showing. the only prerequisite is being desexed. Associate dogs make up large numbers of dogs competing in activities such as Rally O, Obedience, Agility, Flyball, Endurance, Dances with Dogs etc.

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    Lol at you.

    I meant - I should (theoretically) check my dog's joints by xray before I train her in an impact sport like agility. But I figure the risk from the anaesthetic is probably worse than the risk to her joints - given that I've had several vets check them by feel and they're all good that way. She does freak me out from time to time - I think she gets a "dead leg" from sleeping funny and then she walks funny when she first wakes up.

    But it's not like a lab with HD.

    Excellent post Kalacreek - hope Rubygloom gets into that.

    Nattylou - an associate register dog has to be desexed first (proof has to be provided).

    I showed SACA the receipt from AWL with "Desexed" written on it. Her ears are tattooed too, and I know where her scar is. There's no bits left for an "immaculate conception" either - eggless and ectopic is the best she could manage and I don't think either of us would enjoy that.

    PS her standard way of dealing with attempted humpings is to roll over and kick romeo dogs in the nuts... such a romantic she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    PS her standard way of dealing with attempted humpings is to roll over and kick romeo dogs in the nuts... such a romantic she is.
    'Hyacinth' you have taught her well !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post

    Nattylou - an associate register dog has to be desexed first (proof has to be provided).
    I know that... That's why I said it already...

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