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    Default How does it all happen?

    Hi there,
    So i'm not a breeder but being the Breeders Community I figured this would be the best place to ask.
    How does one become a breeder? Where does it change from being a backyard breeder to being a registered breeder (i'm not a backyard breeder so just thought i'd mention that).
    I love beagles, we have owned 1 beagle and are about to get another, i'd to in future be a breeder, but i'm really not sure where to begin. At the moment we just have beagles because we love them and enjoy them as pets, but i'd love to take it that step further, not immediatly but i'd love to work towards it. I want to breed good pups, I don't want to just breed for the sake of breeding and the experience.
    Do all breeders have to be show dog types?
    I have researched Beagle Breeders here in W.A and alot of them seem to go back for 30-40 years, so where did they start? Do you stary with a pup who is tested for all genetic problems, and then breed it with a pup who has also been tested and is clear? Do you breed from 2 different registered breeds?
    Sorry if this sounds so clueless, like I said early days for me and i'm just trying to find some information.
    Also if somebody had notes on costs etc.. that would be wonderful too.
    Thanks,
    BeagleEagle
    Big droopy eyes, long floppy ears... I love Beagles

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    hi beagleeagle!
    i see your from perth WA same here
    i know nothing about breeding, sorry but im predicting you will be torn to shreds on this thread
    lol have fun

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    Oh really How come?
    Big droopy eyes, long floppy ears... I love Beagles

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    From what I know, the person starts with a dog they get from a registered breeder who guides them though the process of conformation and helps them make sure that the dogs they breed together complement each other and everything else that comes with showing/breeding they will offer their skills to you. Normally they want someone who is very experienced in the breed though ownership.

    And yes, it's true that breeding question cause a lot of controversy due to all the animals that die in shelters and ones that have health problems.
    Also, it's a very 'messy' thing to breed when you consider all the work that goes into it (going though dogs pedigrees and having some knowledge of genetic etc, etc...)

    Just want to add that I didn't mean for this to sound critical if it came across as that. If it's what you want to do then go for it. You could start by researching the breed standard and viewing both pet and show quality dogs as well as finding out about health problems in the breed and test's the dogs require before being bred.
    Last edited by Julieanne; 01-19-2013 at 10:25 PM.

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    No idea where the 'torn to shreds' remark comes from in a thread like this.

    Can't help you with your queries either but there are a few regular members who can and hopefully will.

    So just wanted to say welcome and good luck in your endeavours.

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    I dont have any advice for you, but i also wanted to pop in and welcome you
    and also, i don't think you'll get ripped to shreds here. There are a lot of threads here that were started by people who simply wanted to breed their dog for money or other silly reasons... those are the ones who get "ripped to shreds" but i reckon you sound like you want to do it for the right reasons

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    Thank you for all your responses It has given me a few pointers, it's going to be years down the track for me, I have so so much to learn but I thought there is no harm in asking how it all begins. I've never been to a dog show in my life, let alone competed in one either so maybe that's something to consider when buying our new pup, i'm sure the breeder could advise me on where to begin too.
    Now my search begins for a good breeder to buy from first
    Big droopy eyes, long floppy ears... I love Beagles

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    Really guys? I didnt mean any offense just a joke but re read back through some threads about ppl wanting to breed who don't show or at least aren't 100% educated on breed standard...you'll see what I mean

    Don't take it too heart guys

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    I'd be interested to see those threads. The only ones I know of were people get lectured are those who want to breed for the sake of it and usually their dogs don't have papers.

    All responsible breeders have to start somewhere and this poster clearly shows a commitment to learn how to do things right and because she loves the breed. I can't see how any sensible dog lover could have an issue with that and I applaud anyone asking these types of questions here.

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    You have to first start by registering with your states canine council. In WA it is DogsWest - Home so you become a member, then sit for a breeders exam and get your kennel name prefix. There is no rules that you have to show your dogs, but you need to prove your dogs quality somehow, be it in ANKC trials like tracking, obedience, agility etc but showing is a conformation competition where the dogs are judged on how closely they fit to the breed standard. Another good idea is to join the West Australian Beagle Club which is also registered breeders who can help you with advice.

    You can mix two dogs from two different kennels but they need to be complementary. Remember your purpose is to create sound, healthy dogs with good temperaments and pedigrees allow you to 1) prove what you are producing and 2) research back as to what your breeding dogs families have produced. Puppies born will have your prefix from then on, you have to register them with the kennel council when born and work within their code of ethics. Making friends with a few breeders first to help you along is usually what people mean when they say get a mentor, producing GOOD quality dogs is actually a bit of an art despite what some people think.

    To start your kennel you will need a dog that is on Main Register, that is pedigree papers for dogs that are for breeding/export so your own pups can be registered. Limited register is a pedigree dog that cannot be bred and produce registered puppies, or cannot be exported with pedigree papers transferred to that countries KC. A good way to start is with a bitch if you are limited in space, breed a litter using semen/stud dog and then see what you produce. You may like to keep another bitch, or run on a dog to use as a stud yourself down the track and show them both to prove they are something worth breeding with.

    A piece of paper is not a marketing tool despite what some breeders think. Doing nothing with your dogs and just breeding pedigrees to jack up the price is nothing more then glorified backyard breeding as far as I am concerned, the quality line in the sand needs to be proven somehow.

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